Mel Kiper compares Justin Fields and Trey Lance | Keyshawn, JWill and Zubin
Mel Kiper compares Justin Fields and Trey Lance | Keyshawn, JWill and Zubin
Mel Kiper Jr. KJZ to break down his 2021 NFL Mock Draft 3.0, where Trevor Lawrence is projected No. 1 overall to the Jacksonville Jaguars, Zach Wilson is projected No. 2 overall to the New York Jets, Justin Fields is projected No. 3 overall to the Carolina Panthers and Trey Lance is projected No. 4 overall to the Atlanta Falcons.
0:00 Mel Kiper explains why Zach Wilson is projected to be selected by the New York Jets with the No. 2 overall pick in his latest mock draft.
2:38 How close are Justin Fields and Trey Lance?
3:53 Kiper rants about why he discredits pro days.
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0:00 Mel Kiper explains why Zach Wilson is projected to be selected by the New York Jets with the No. 2 overall pick in his latest mock draft. 2:38 How close are Justin Fields and Trey Lance? 3:53 Kiper rants about why he discredits pro days.
He play against high school players.
Justin Fields is going to be a bust.
All I know is Zach Wilson’s level of competition wasn’t that tough. Look at how Gonzaga beat their competition all season. Just to get to the championship game and get treated like a division 2 team. Point I’m making is I can’t trust that Zach Wilson has proven enough to be the number 2 pick.
Pitts should be number one.
Mel!!!! Shut up!!!
Bart and Mel are the two best guys/footbnall analysts on the tube.
Is this the same guy that said Manziel was gonna be a hall of famer??!! So overrated, "draft expert"😂🤣😂🤣
Lance was still a teenager when most of his tape was made. It’s impossible to guess how he’s going to turn out in the NFL. I would definitely go with Fields over Lance. I also think Mac Jones is being underrated here, because of his lack of being a “dual threat quarterback”. Obviously Brady doesn’t run very well, and even Mahomes is not a true dual threat quarterback, he’s just magic behind the LOS. The best quarterbacks are not the ones that run the best, they’re the ones that throw the ball accurately and on time.
There are hundreds of youtube draft analysts that are a thousand times more valid than kiper
So Mel doesn’t have the niners taking a QB at 3?
Fields has that cam Newton vibe. Seems arrogant and having a temper.
Trey lance is going to be the best quarterback in this draft
I will remember this comment. That would be amazing if you're correct.
@Niners_Worldwide 😂😂😂
Trey Lance is 100% the best QB in this draft
@Wzrdvelly he will be the best watch and see 😆
Lmao yeah right
0:24 Agreed. After that I’m lost
I think we’re taking Fields at the 3 or Wilson if he’s available. I could also see the case for Mac Jones with the current media narrative. But Trey Lance? That doesn’t make sense to me. What would be the benefit of taking him over Fields? Both are very athletic and have cannons but one played at the highest level in college and the other played at North Dakota.
Some "experts" say that Lance's throwing motion is a bit mechanical, but better than Fields?
He called Teddy Bridgewater a pretty good QB. Kiper, stfu.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦🏿♂️
Mel Kiper = Squidward personified.
Fields is just another j hurts and t lance is another jordan love.
Mel is smart
A white man picking white QBs over a black player. Who is surprised? This is the same guy that picked Mitch Tribiski over Watson and Mahomes. People like this always pick white QBs. Wilson lost to Coastal Carolina and Fields beat Clemson. Yet Wilson is better? Just say that whites are better. We as blacks are used to the foolishness. I tell my son he has to be 10 times better than the average white baseball player. He is and he still at times does not get credit. Unfortunately Fields has to be used to the hate.
Over rated bart Scott he's trying to talk the game
Trey Lance > Wilson, Fields
He looks like jordan love.
Poor, Mitch. 😂
Kiper is rarely right.....and he is wrong again!
The definition of a dumb expert!😂
Wilson was amazing against invisible defenders on his pro day; come to think of it, he played against invisible defenders every Saturday.
he also didnt have the best receivers, u gotta take his team into account as well
I see you Bart Scott with the dig on your former teammate
"Stats are for losers" Mel Kiper 2018
The sad part is folks do all this just to watch 95% of the QB prospects bust.
Ok once you start putting clown paint on your face well your a clown
Mel's breakdown is second to none lol... Hilarious
Mel serious as a heart attack in this episode ... have Fun, Man
How would Justin love fair in this draft?
Trey Lance is going to be a bust just because he is gonna go in the 1st round??? Lance played literally the weakest competition in the country. And they're talkin about him more than Mac Jones
@Hawaiiguy Kailua he never played against real college competition and he had the best of the garbage talent. Fields didn't have what Lawrence and Wilson had to work wit. And he still was very successful. Lance didnt go up against the weakest team In the mountain west. No comparison
He's like Fields, needs to sit and learn. Kellen Mond should go 3 or 4 behind Wilson and Lawrence. He is NFL ready, gets through his progressions quickly and has an NFL release and makes all the throws. He's going to be a solid starter early.
Amen to that (no defense) pro day, 40 time all that BS that’s irrelevant for a QB
After watching a lot of tape on these QB prospects I have created a list of the top QBs: 1. Zach Wilson (quickest release I have seen since Marino. Strongest arm in this class, mobile, quick, accurate, throws WR open) 2. Trevor Lawerence ( Big, tall, mobile, good arm) 3. Justin Fields ( Big, thick, fast 4.4 40, strong arm than Lawerence, holds on the ball too long, slow at making decisions) 4. Mac Jones ( Winner, good personality, smart, makes great decisions, not athletic or mobile, arm isn't particular strong, played on an all star team and the best college football team ever.) 5. Kellen Mond 6. Trey Lance 7. Kyle Trask 8. Feleipe Franks 9. Davis Mills 10. Ian Book
Bruh said he watched a bunch of tape and the FIRST selection was dead wrong😂😂 sad. The hype over this guy is unbelievable. Its even geeater than Trevor Lawrence’s... you know... the QB that ACTUALLY performed on the field and had legitimate success against top competition.
You cannot have Wilson over Lawrence. Lawrence since HIGH SCHOOL has been rated #1 in terms of his skill set, talent, reads, and his arm is not just good it’s incredible with his statue and mobility. I like Wilson but if you want a franchise quarterback with the LEAST amount of risk, it’s Lawrence not Wilson. Now if it’s Wilson or Fields than that’s up for debate you could go either way.
Jimmy G goin to the panthers here comes Justin fields 49ers or smith or Waddell
The panthers don't need a qb like Jimmy g
Yes, Tom Brady is a dinosaur. Unfortunately for the rest of the league, he's the T-Rex.
Brady joined arguably best roster in football when you take qb out of the mix. Brady even tried throwing the NFC championship game away but hi s D and run game kept him in it. Lucky maybe but T rex, nah.
T Rex? Didn't see great numbers... that defense was the T Rex.
Yeah mel kiper said brady can't throw, can run, and he is no good in the nfl. That's why no dream want to draft brady.
The jets will not take a qb
Mel this didn't age well lol.
Would not be surprised to see Fields drop past Lance. It all depends on whether the Jets take Wilson at 2.
I think you have some great QB's in this draft I think kudos to the niners for trading up to get one of these guys in Wilson Fields and even Trey Lance. Most of the time QB's are getting drafted in the 1st round because it's such an important need teams don't wanna miss out on the best one. You rarely find this many QB's with actual first round talent in one draft. I would be happy if the bears would move up to the number #2 spot in this draft but its gonna cost an arm and a leg because teams realize this draft has great value at the QB position.
This is the thing that kills me many of these experts no damm well that if u flip flopped both Fields and Lance that Trey Lance could've done the exact same thing but because he didn't play for a division 1 big time school he's irrelevant in some eyes
Obviously that is likely untrue seeing as Ohio State was in need of a QB and they opted to transfer in Fields and didnt even THINK to look at Lance. Just because he has similar potential in the eyes of some, doesnt mean its actually there. You 100% have to question why he was stuck at a small school especially when most of the best QB’s if they arent getting enough shine, transfer.
sewell falling to 9 is amazing. as a pac12/ chargers fan, I would love the chargers to trade up to 9 and snag this guy. They got 3 decent interior lineman in the free agency, and they have bulaga already. all they need is a left tackle and the offense is looking nice. to get a guy that has already worked with the qb in college and is maybe the best oline prospect of the decade? that would be a dream come true
fields throwing speed accuracy is what makes him the best pick
@Alden Wheeler fosho
cant forget athleticism to go along with it
Zach Wilson and Trey Lance don’t play against Alabama or Clemson but it’s not like Trey Lance is playing against the FCS with 5 or even 4 stars on his team
But he is though.
Lance played no comp to say he better disrespectful
I don’t think Justin fields will be a good pro qb. It’s something in the way he talks in press conferences, and interviews. I also think his athleticism is overrated.
@Jonathan Williams I stand corrected.
@Lincoln MacEachern an aged brad Johnson won a super bowl with buccaneers. You may be right but your reasoning is spurious. What I’m saying is that his “person” seems suspect to me. The subtle ways he eschews blame for struggles or points to his own success when asked about a teammate or the team in general.
You sound like a Georgia kid I met in the '80's. He didn't think a Canadian would know anything about the NCAA. He said ( watching CFL, and former Clemson QB Homer Jordan ), "I'd put a Black man at run'n back or wahd receivuh, not at quaback." I responded "he was good enough to play QB for the national champs, wasn't he?"
He runs a 4.41 forty. Very overrated athletically
Justin Field play like Mahomes
fields is faster, mahomes has more arm talent. but the ability to extend plays is there.
If I’m the niners I would draft fields because he’s played in the best conference and looked great . Trey lance is more of a project which is still a great pick I just wish the media stop rushing kids to be stars . Let them grow .
@Shaun Hensley Maybe a win, win, and loss. There are 3 First Round picks involved... 1) IF "Jimmy" is productive enough to bring a First Rd pic (big if!). 2) The "Pick" becomes worthy of the 1st round selection. 3) See above! Will the "Pick" be worthy of 2 First Rounders?!? Not likely...
Niners have indicated they want to sit their pick behind Jimmy and give Jimmy an opportunity to be productive and increase his value for next year. That’s a win win
@John Vallery Don't know Lawrence or Wilson, but Jones had a 129.9 "under pressure" rating, and Lance had a 117.4. A lot better than 54.1 Fields!!
@Gower SUP football is mainly scheme and coaching . I would he executive of the year
@Maytrix redpill ok and what does Trevor Lawrence has under pressure?? He was exposed against LSU
Wilson never played one good team. Fields throw 5 tds points against Clemson. Wilson couldn't do that in his dreams
Justin fields will need 3 years to progress into a nfl quarterback trey 1 yr tops he is way better than Justin period
Ridiculous
Kiper is clueless.
Don’t see 4 straight qbs
I don't either
Kiper. Come on man. These are young stars with their own style
After these trades today, kiper is wrong again, and the hits just keep on coming😅😅😅
How does Mel Kiper have any gravitas? It's the hair, right? I think it's that he is just able to talk.
Right...🤣
Best job in football. No risk Always looks great before. No one ever goes back and says look you were wrong before on this kid. It’s just onto next year
Fields is trash LOLOLOL check his stats against ranked with exception of Clemson game
He was a finalist for the Heisman a year ago. He made the playoffs 2 years running, just missing out on one semi final. Last year, the Big 10 late start, injuries, lack of practice time, covid protocols, all affected him. He had a monster game against Clemson, and ever since, the talking heads have downgraded him and overhyped Wilson.
@Spenser Anderson Definition of a 'Hater'
@Spenser Anderson ok Fields is not trash he is manure.....is that Better?
you’re using 2 games to discredit all he did at Ohio State but Zach Wilson looked like a 5th round pick before this past season and I bet you praise him... shut up clown
This guy sounds like the guy in the teachers' lounge that is full of loud opinions and then leaves as soon as he's done talking, then everyone finishes the discussion. Don't argue with him directly. It just won't take.
These are going to be busts!!
who
Jets aren’t drafting a QB; they’ll take davante smith after trading back
Every Year he gets picks WRONG AND HE STILL HAVE A JOB!!
I know. He is rarely correct after the first 3 picks.
Please please Jets go get Fields!!!!
Let the Fields Era begin in Jets land!!
Facts lance or fields , is the guy. Wilson and Lawrence bust
Trey lance won a championship to and had no picks he have the slightest idea what he talking about
I wouldn't go neither, I would go with trey lance
Neither of these guys will win a SuperBowl... they will be mediocre QBs.
You don't put two games against fields in the number 2 pick but you do it for him being number one
Trade out of #2...too dumb to reach high for Zach Wilson ... Let another sucker draft him high
Justin Fields is the better QB. McShay is the one who is fueling this Wilson mystique and that's risky territory. Every year these guys are putting 100 on 10 on a QB that is a unknown. See Daniel Jones.
I hope Justin breaks the Ohio State curse.
@roger doger angel not even close. Fields is running a 4.4 40 and mobile. Winston is a stationary giant QB. How did this comparison even pop up in ur head as similar when their games are kinda opposite
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Mel looks wired AF. Snap into a slim jim oh yeaaah
Trey Lance doing the downward combover to hide his receding hairline
That’s what happens when you get a line up every freaking week lol
Zach Wilson is overhyped people are forcing it they want him to be the next big thing and want to bring down Justin Fields because of prospect fatigue, Trey Lance because of one game.
Zach Wilson is regular
Bruh I hate Mel Kiper
Lawrence and Fields will be stars. Top 10. Wilson and Jones will be solid qbs, maybe above average. Lance I have no idea, I've never watched north Dakota state play. So I want pretend like I have!
Lance is going to be the best in the draft
@Jason P they say Wilson going 2nd, but I'd the jets don't trade darnold then he definitely going to the 49ers. No way you can draft another qb with the 2nd overall pick when you have the 1at overall pick on your team from 3 or 4 years ago. Too many holes on that team. Wilson could sit for a year or two and learn.
I like Wilson. Only problem is he played against trash. I think he played one really good team all year. He has phenomenal traits tho.
Wilson and Mond will be stars, Lawrence will be good but decision making will take 3 years to correct. Fields and Lance are long term projects. Jones I don't know much about?
@Shane Cortez would go Krazy if Wilson fell to my niners
mel kiper doesnt take breaths, breaths take mel kiper
Kiper doesn't like to talk about Jimmy Clausen...."One of the most pro-trade prospects in almost a decade" lol.
Speaking of Clausen didn’t Mel say he would quit if he wasn’t a top qb by year 3? 🤨 🤔 🧐 😂
Don't let his bragging about Allen fool you... Every-time Josh Allen played a top team, he looked like Josh Allen lol......... I could be wrong, but I see Allen regressing this year......... Again, I could be wrong before the salty BUF fans pop up in my comments feed like "haha, you were wrong" like a year from now when I don't even remember what I said lol....
Kiper is mediocre
2:48 shoutout to Mel Kiper saying he has Fields rated higher than Wilson I agree!!!!
@Die hard knicks fan Since I was swimmin in the sack Oh give me a break. He played absolutely third rate defenders .
@Gary Newcomb of course but no QB is at their best lol he’s making it sound like he’s suppose to be at his best and great. It’s just funny how he’ll criticize Wilson, but not see the obvious flaws with fields and Lawrence
@Die hard knicks fan Since I was swimmin in the sack there are QB’s that are good under pressure but trying to argue with Cody is a lost cause!! He’s not knowledge when evaluating players is evident!! Fields is not going to make it in the NFL!! These people never look at the whole picture! Can’t remember the last OSU QB that was good in the NFL!! It’s the same with Bama!! They bring in college caliber QB’s to fit their needs but that’s it!!
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@CrazyCody yea too bad I’m not the only person who believes in Wilson. Respected people who’ve actually played football agree. Chris Simms always hits on the top QBs and has him as the best in this class. And I agree. Come back here when that’s the case. I’d like to see you backtrack and realize you were wrong
Zach Wilson is overhyped imo. Don’t understand why people act like he’s the consensus #2 how Lawrence is the consensus #1
@Lincoln MacEachern And yes Wilson has played competition, he just didn’t play any this year. And the only reason he didn’t play any this year was because of Covid
@Lincoln MacEachern I don’t care about Chris Simms, i watch my own film. I see throws that Zach Wilson do that Fields can’t do, i see reads that Zach Wilson do that Fields can’t do, and i see a better throwing motion that’s quicker and isn’t going to be prone to getting knocked out at the next level. You’re basing Fields off of one game, it doesn’t matter if he doesn’t have better mechanics. Wilt Chamberlain dropped 100 points in a game before, just because he has the stats he’s better than Jordan or Bron? Devin Booker has a higher career high than Bron, does that make him better? Who cares about just one game, look at the mechanics and you’ll know who’s better
@Micah Diller Harder doesn’t matter, he said that Russ played competition, ARod did, and etc. If that’s competition, then Zach Wilson playing Washington, Wisconsin, USC, and etc is competition then. He also played Tennessee, an SEC team. He had played competition, don’t be weird about it
@Magnificent Just because a douchebag like Chris Simms says so? Don't think he even watched the Clemson game.
@Magnificent Wilson has played against no competition whatsoever. I hope he's the next Ryan Leaf.
Justin Fields will go over Zach Wilson.
@Lincoln MacEachern Wilson is far from overhyped. But whatever you say. 49ers wouldn’t be high on him if he was. I’m sure if the jets pass on him he’d be the pick in a heartbeat.
I don't think so. I think he's better, but they've been downgrading him every week since the championship, and overhyping Wilson. Don't talk too much about OSU QB's. I was 21 when the last decent BYU QB , Steve Young was drafted. I'm 58.
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Not if they have common sense.
@bigdap100 nah that’s cause you don’t watch tape😂there’s a reason why execs and scours have him the 2nd best QB in the draft. Wilson is #1 for me and not even close.
Justin Fields is the best QB in this draft & should be #1 but politics won't allow it....I just hope my Panthers can land him!
Facts, I’d rather want him on the 9ers or Facons tho tbh
@Andrew Holladay i actually deep down in my heart believe that they are going to take Trey Lance.
Niners are taking him sorry about your luck
@Bad Wolf MMA 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💪🏿
@Icey P you don’t watch film on Fields and it shows. He uses predetermined routes, which would be ok if he didn’t stare down his receivers the ENTIRE ROUTE. he doesn’t know when to hold back on his arm strength and puts too much zip on short passes which makes him inaccurate. His release is too long and he winds up too much and in the NFL that is a hazard for fumbles. He doesn’t go through his progressions and if his first option isn’t open he doesn’t go back to check downs or his 2nd or 3rd option on the opposite side of the Field. When that happens he either just takes off and run or he gets sacked
Jesus Christ! Mel Kiper is harsh. 😆
When MEL kipper going to retire
He should soon!
Hater energy on point
@The Nation no he’s a horrible analyst and the worst predictions and analysis ever recorded nobody can trust what he says or anyone
Why tho let the man do his thang I grew up on Kipper, although he’s boneheaded still a pleasure to watch!
all he do is talk & start draft rumors he still got 15-20 yrs left
Lets put these kids against each other
If you honestly believe Fields is better than Lance, you're in for a rude awakening come their rookie season.
Yes lance played great teams what a joke
Fields over Wilson imo
I don't think these two will be bust I just believe that this QB draft class will have 5 superstars once they get to the league
Justin Fields is better than Trevor Lawrence! Watch he has the better career he out performed Trevor twice while injured! Alot of people are just praying on his downfall and we all know why wether you want to admit it or not.
@Sean Dooley Career? What about this year, 2020 Jones 77% Set NCAA COMPLETION PERCENTAGE RECORD!!! Fields 72% Jones 129.9 "Under Pressure Rating" Fields 54.1. Can you say CAN'T READ DEFENSES?! BTW Lance had a 117.4 "Under Pressure Rating" Fields is ALL by himself at the BOTTOM! * and what was your statement, "he can learn the playbook". Why didn't he? Because he looked at the #1 option, than???
@Lincoln MacEachern What do those 2 have anything to do with what I said? good receivers, but irrelevant in the context of what I said.
@roger doger angel We laugh at those Wolverine QB's every November. 25 year contract for Harbaugh, please.
@Unisis You're punishing him because he had Wilson and Olave? Fields shredded the dreaded Venables D; he couldn't repeat against the Tide.( Clemson and Lawrence would have been blown out 2 years in a row ). Surely the loss of Trey Sermon hobbled Fields, although no one was beating Alabama this year.
@roger doger angel Your so stupid Brady is all yall have he came out of school what 20 years ago? Michigan hasn't developed a decent quarterback since. Haskins went to a organization that didn't want him nor had the patients to develop him. Haskins is with an organization that actually wants him now and where he can sit back and learn so we'll see. Your definitely a clown tho
Zach Wilson and Justin fields are same
That is true both programs played great school especially Zach at BYU and we all know how BYU plays what a joke
They really aren’t
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Zachary Wilson and trey lance are far superior than fields
@Steve J 💯
The fields hate stems from people not liking Ohio State. That’s all it is.
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@Jack Westfall absolutely true, these Fields haters are delusional AF
I truly believe that neither Wilson or lance could do what fields did vs Clemson.
Justin fields is the most innaccurate of the three they are comparing. He completely fell apart against elite defenses. AS well as only playing 6 games just to lose to Alabama. unfortunate.
Ask Dabo or Venables how he fell apart. BYU would have lost to Alabama 110-0
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@Kingmickey22 yes Fields probably be a millionaire and get coached up and try to be a decent pro. I am sure he is reading all these comments from experts and former football players who obviously know what they are talking about
@Joshua Kazhila agreed
I agree to an extent but he just needs to get coached up
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